Christians and science. Incompatible? I think so, but it shouldn’t be. Ever.

If you are a Christian and think science is bunk, this may possibly give you a new perspective. If you read with an open mind, maybe it WILL make sense.

Christian. “A Christian (About this sound pronunciation ) is a person who adheres to Christianity, an Abrahamic, monotheistic religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth. “Christian” derives from the Koine Greek word Christós (Χριστός), a translation of the Biblical Hebrew term mashiach.”
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Science. “Science (from Latin scientia, meaning “knowledge”[2]) is a systematic enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about nature and the universe. This knowledge is determined through the scientific method by experiments and observations, and may take the form of scientific facts, scientific models, or scientific theories.[nb 1] In an older and closely related meaning, “science” also refers to a body of knowledge itself, of the type that can be rationally explained and reliably applied. Ever since classical antiquity, science as a type of knowledge has been closely linked to philosophy. In the West during the early modern period the words “science” and “philosophy of nature” were sometimes used interchangeably,[3]:p.3 and until the 19th century natural philosophy (which is today called “natural science“) was considered a separate branch of philosophy.[4]
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Christianity and science. Can they live together? Can they live on the same city block, indeed, can they live in the same universe?

The average “Bible believing Christian” normally argues “NO!”

OK, I have written about this before, kind of. Not so much about science, but absolutely about believing in a ‘God’ of all, including a god of other gods. Here’s a link to that entry.
“God? You actually know Him? I gotta hear this. Continue…..”

Well, in that piece, I scrape the barrel. I ask questions I really don’t have answers to, but my blog isn’t really about answering questions. It’s about making people ask questions of themselves. Yeah, that gets me off of the hook. However, I reason in a rational way as much as I can.

So, can science and ‘God’ live together in the same house? I think so. I’ll tell you why  I, me, Kelly, thinks so. I’m not going to tell you that you need to think as I do, or that whatever I believe is what you should believe, but, if it sounds good, again, ask yourself questions and if it doesn’t sound right, ask yourself more questions. Click links where you find them, read what you find, hold your ruler up next to those facts and see if they measure up.

Can these co-exist? They do now so it's a moot point. Read on.
Can these two co-exist?
It isn’t debatable.

In the image above, we see two things that many “Christians” say can not live together, but there they are. To me, space is the personification of science, just as much as a molecular diagram is the personification of science. Space is science undressed, presented in the nude, in my opinion.
Now, I’ll change one word in that observation. To me, space is the personification of ‘God,’ just as much as a molecular diagram is the personification of ‘God.’
No harm, no foul. I’m not going to preach or throw scripture that few of us actually understand around the room. It always ruins a good party.

I hear and read of “Christians” exclaiming that the Hubble photos reveal the glory of ‘God’s’ creation. That’s fine, I guess. But then, if you immediately ask them if they believe in evolution, not so quick to respond in the same manner. Be ready to argue, be blasted with “Yeah but…..” and “Huh?” logic, etc.

Doesn’t it just make sense? Really. We know science is real. We do. Molecules exist. Gravity is real. Magnetism exists. Light is real. All are defined by science. Not dependent upon, but defined by science, so how can anyone say no? Even without the acknowledgment of science, these things exist. You can see, hear, touch them. So, why such fuss over these things?

Well, I’m glad you asked.

It’s really very simple. Put your Christianity, atheism, agnosticism, yada yada, aside for a bit. Look around you. Science is smeared upon everything you see. You see because molecules and atoms exist. Everything exists because of these two facts, however, there are so many “Christians,” certainly many I know, that will stop dead at explaining how this works and just say, “Because ‘God’…..I don’t need to explain anything.”

If you believe in some special place where we go after we have outlived the limits of our bodies (science, by the way,) fine. That end place does not dictate the physical properties of everything that exists before you get there. It is not magic, but most likely is an imaginary place. “Heaven?” In my opinion, the term “heaven” is only a name for something no one can prove exists or prove does not exist, and no one can define.

“Heaven” appears no fewer than 583 times in the 1611 King James Version of the Holy Bible (also known as the Authorized Version.) Now, as I have outlined in another entry on my blog, this version of the ‘Holy Scriptures’ was put together by a King who ruled England and subsequently Scotland, and was actually pressured by the Church of England to ‘standardize’ the ‘word of God.’ In fact, the King James Version (KJV), commonly known as the Authorized Version (AV) or King James Bible (KJB), is an English translation of the Christian Bible for the Church of England begun in 1604 and completed in 1611. The original scripts, scrolls, documents, were in Greek, Hebrew, Aramaic and Latin. Major translation project, don’t you agree? Yes, and through the act of translating them, those originals certainly mean something much different than what you find in that book your coffee cup is sitting upon on the end table. If you have never seen or read the original scrolls, etc., you have no idea what the original intent of those writings and documents contained. You can quote scripture today, although, what it may have originally meant may have been something rather different than what you think it says now. Well, actually, not may have but actually DID mean something different.

What’s my point? Once again, I’m glad you asked.

I personally know many “Christians” who read their Bibles as guides for their lives. They apply all of the scripture, as they see fit and understand them, to their lives. Many of them do not question or research those scriptures, but defend them vehemently in all instances when being challenged. They read a scripture, pray about it then wait for something to happen. A light, a voice, a truck crashing through the wall? It’s hard to say. They are waiting for something. Oddly, science will be a part of whatever it is that appears. However, they really don’t understand that there were, as I have stated, many other earlier versions of what they read, in other languages, therefore, meaning something that is most possibly not the literate version they are currently reading.

I’m getting off topic here. Back to the root. Sorry.

It seems to me that there are really only a few subjects that “Christians,” or rather, “religious types,” seem to discount, or refuse to address or talk about. Evolution, the age of the earth, stem cell science, the subject of fossilization, and more. Considering their stance, it is unlikely that they could reason, at best, above a high school science class level, how these mechanisms actually work. Denying that they are actually proven mechanisms is par for the course. “They’re only theory, so, yeah.”

I recently watched the documentary, “Questioning Darwin.” It can be found and viewed, at this writing, on any mobile device with the HBOGO app installed. A film, not actually outlining evolution or creationism, but anecdotal from both pulpits.

In this piece, a few of the “Christians” actually voice their opinion that evolution can not fit in the teachings of the Bible. I find this rather narrow minded, considering that these fundamentalist “Christians” take what they read quite literally. Without a doubt, they believe the snake actually spoke, not metaphorically, and that there actually was a snake. Again, Hebrew, Greek, Latin and Aramaic do not translate to English efficiently, nor would the final book, if it WERE possible, be small enough to shove into your purse or jacket pocket and head off to church with. No. Undoubtedly, there would be many volumes.

So, back to science.

Now, the best I have ever been at “science” was as a kid in school. Especially middle school. When my teacher gave us projects to do, it was great. Hands on, doing it, up to the elbows in science. I couldn’t wait to present my postulation and projects to the teacher, even though it always took place in front of the class, I wasn’t concerned with what the students thought. I was bullied through school so I was going to actually take a hit regardless. My teachers were always impressed with my understanding and devotion. The bullies? Not so much. But, this isn’t about abuse.

It seems that if science doesn’t somehow align with a “Christians” idea or what they think their Bible tells them, then science is wrong, at least on the subject that they don’t get. Gravity is fine. Light being reflected, refracted and dispersed goes a bit too far. They will tell you rainbows are ‘God’s property. However, they can’t explain the science behind it. Water? No biggy. It exists because hydrogen and oxygen like each other. When water is frozen it’s volume increases. Why? Because ‘God.’ Hey, I’m sorry, but you have to come up with something better. Like………….science.

I learned all of these principles as a boy in school, and in more recent years, as Albert Einstein postulated the theory of gravity, he began to change his view and understanding of gravity.
Here’s a short piece on gravity. It comes from the “How Stuff Works” page. I desire not to get too wordy or mundane with this so I’ve chosen a simple, straight forward explanation.
Einstein’s General Theory of Relativity concerning gravity.

What he is saying in a manner that is understandable to us lay-people is that space-time actually may exert a pressure on things within it’s realm. Not dissimilar to the manner in which air or water exert pressure, measured as “pounds per square inch,” also called psi, on anything within it. One must accept that there are atoms of everything that exists in our universe floating in space. If it were not so, I would not be typing these words and you would not be reading these words. It doesn’t get much simpler than that.

Well then, why do “Christians” have such a tough time with science?
Because they seem to think that they are bound by their indoctrination to take the Bible literally?
Because they feel that they would abandon their belief or faith if they did not concentrate all of their thinking ability on religion, or ‘God?’
What makes this happen?

I really don’t have any answers to offer, however, I laugh often at those “Christians” who argue scientific principles, or science itself, with people who may not be ‘believers’ or may be secularists.
All of these names just confuse the issue. They’ll even argue with other Christians who never abandoned reasonable thought to be “Christians.”

I just don’t know, but it appears to me that “Christianity” and science may never be compatible with each other. I really have no idea why it will never happen.

Until, and if, they ever do, just know that science will always have your back. Will “Christians?” Highly unlikely.

If I knew, I'd tell you.
If I knew, I’d tell you.

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